Whats so good about relishaeishes?

[HolyRoler]

Whats so good about relishaeish that people would make grinding threads for them?

[Hestaby]

If you are in a group and have high luck they drop a lot of items that npc for 1k each.

[Sayyid]

Nothing is particularly great about them. But since MW and FN are worthless except for crafting and leveling, they happen to still be the best grinding out there -- high NPC price for their drops. Just the latest iteration of the "high level zones are underpowered" problem this game has had for a year.

[Yasopp]

Good value drops at good droprate if you have decent luck indeed.

Originally Posted by Sayyid

Nothing is particularly great about them. But since MW and FN are worthless except for crafting and leveling, they happen to still be the best grinding out there -- high NPC price for their drops. Just the latest iteration of the "high level zones are underpowered" problem this game has had for a year.

Or "low level zones are overpowered" ofcourse .
The amount of money you can grind atm is fine imo, quite high allready (and with all the luck increases it gets better anyways).
Maybe the location where you have best grinding could be changed, but I can see the reasoning behind having it at relish, as to give lower levels a chance (and high lvls still do it faster with better gear available then).

[Buzzaro]

Let me add that because of their location in FUU, they are just seconds way from an NPC to sell all your loot you've just pinched and you're able to get back to grinding faster.

Otherwise you'll have to zone back and forth which takes much more time. (depending which teleports you have and how many slots you have in your pack)

[Sayyid]

Originally Posted by Yasopp

Or "low level zones are overpowered" ofcourse .

There's a nice gentle increase in number of coins you can grind from zone to zone up to FUU. Then after FUU the line falls off a cliff. That's a sign that everything is balanced just fine up until you hit that cliff.

[Ace3408]

Originally Posted by Sayyid

There's a nice gentle increase in number of coins you can grind from zone to zone up to FUU. Then after FUU the line falls off a cliff. That's a sign that everything is balanced just fine up until you hit that cliff.

This.

Tl;dr version of thread, Relish is the best grind in FO. Being as such, people make threads to know who's out there. The more people in your group grinding relish (with around the same amount of luck) you will earn substantially more money.

[dsx2000]

Originally Posted by Sayyid

There's a nice gentle increase in number of coins you can grind from zone to zone up to FUU. Then after FUU the line falls off a cliff. That's a sign that everything is balanced just fine up until you hit that cliff.

I know, Spells, Pets, Crafting and Drops are at a terrible rate. Sure Boshed and Hestaby have Millions and Millions but the majority of us don't have 240k for a spell. The average coins per player is around 1 million but most of those are held by high level players like Boshed, Hestaby, Zimijo, FailCard, Galactiiic and friends, while the other 70%-85% have a lot less than 1 million. Players level 50-60 would pay over 1.3 Million just to get all of the spells needed for his/her level. (The price of Wulf has gone from 40 Gems to 100 Gems. 100 Gems is about 700k. So 2 Million on spells if he/her want wulf.) It's getting annoying. Gamer, Price your spells against what levels 50-60 have. I only have 100k, Your telling me that i should pay 240k for a pet that disappears in 30 minutes, i think pets are annoying and a pain, but i still play because i made some friends but that's about it. I was talking to StarmanDX a few days ago and he made a lot of points and a few ways you can make this game a lot better. Better game, More players, More gem purchases, More money for Jeremy Stroh to make this game better. That's all. P.S. Stop adding outfits every week and add items that are equal to T4 items, More Gem Purchases and everyone has different stuff.

[Yasopp]

Originally Posted by Sayyid

There's a nice gentle increase in number of coins you can grind from zone to zone up to FUU. Then after FUU the line falls off a cliff. That's a sign that everything is balanced just fine up until you hit that cliff.

I have more of a feeling that FU/FUU are the odd ones out, from FW -> FU(/FUU) is a bigger upgrade than FUU -> MW is a downgrade (it's been a while for me though, maybe that changed a bit).
The luck stat might have messed with the balance in moneygrinding a bit too.
And like I said, I can see the potential reasoning behind having good/best grinds not at highest lvl area, to give lower lvls a chance. Maybe that's why it is like it is.
But you could be right, something is off at least. It'd be nice to have at least something comparable in higher lvl areas.

As for high cost crafts and high cost skills/pets, idk, it's not required to get them right this instant. I guess they also serve a purpose as a coin(/gem)sink; not really right to make also the (comparatively) poor suffer for that though.

[Sayyid]

Originally Posted by dsx2000

I know, Spells, Pets, Crafting and Drops are at a terrible rate. Sure Boshed and Hestaby have Millions and Millions but the majority of us don't have 240k for a spell. [...] Gamer, Price your spells against what levels 50-60 have.

At levels 50-60 in a group you can grind out the exact same amount as the level 80-100s can solo. Only absolutely-maxed-out characters can one-hit Relishes and clear the area on their own - everyone else just groups in two/three and can clear the same amount of relishes and get the same loot. The only difference is in luck - but once you hit 60 and can equip a golden token that advantage becomes very small as well.

Bottom line, even people [i]half way[/] to the max level can grind out 240k in less than an hour's grinding. For a top-level spell, that's simply not that much. Heck, finishing the 300 tremors quest took me longer than that.

By way of comparison -- imagine WoW if the level 30s could compete with 60s. It would just be silly. That's where this game is at because the zones are not balanced, they already coddle lowbies at the expense of high level players having worthless "new content" that just gets in the way of them going back to lowbie coddle-zones.